Training: Intervals – the nerd stuff... So, why would you do intervals and how

In the dark ages there was a view of ‘go hard as you can for as long as you can’ of training. And whist you can do this, for the vast majority of riders, it is difficult to sustain for any length of time and it will take a long time to recover from.

One day some evil genius came up with the idea of going hard for a set amount of time and easy for a set amount of time and the interval was born. Intervals can be any length: 15sec VERY hard/15sec recoveryx30 or 40sec REALLY hard/20sec recoveryx7 or a personal favourite – 60sec hard, 60 sec recoveryx16. The basic and obvious principle underlying intervals is that you go hard, recover, repeat. Over the course of your training session you will accumulate far more time training in high heart rate zones zone (and hence accumulate more training stress) than if you took the ‘going hard for as long as you can’ approach.

longer effort intervals (more than 8 minutes) and with a workout longer than one hour develop a type of fitness that enables you to sustain a high workload over varied terrain and over a prolonged period of time, i.e. the Tuesday evening intervals. This type of fitness is fundamental to all biking but particularly MTB’ing (because we spend most of our time climbing and descending and very little time on what could be described as flat).

Because these sessions tend to be near your functional threshold power (FTP – the average power (watts) output that you can sustain for a given period of time) they are uncomfortable and you have to talk yourself into and through them so they are good mental training as well.

Now for an interesting fact. The session should be ‘uncomfortable’ – not bleeding from the eyeballs... There is very little physical benefit from going at 95% of your Lactate Heart Rate Threshold (HRT) compared to 87%. For the purpose of any interval longer than 4 minutes, HRT is roughly the equivalent of FTP. For intervals under 4 minutes, HRT is less accurate and you should use relative perceived effort (see here for a description of all this stuff... https://thesufferfest.com/blogs/trai...-afraid-to-ask)

To get the most out of the Tuesday intervals, you want to be going steady throughout. If you were to look at a line graph of heart rate afterwards, the line should climb up to your target and stay there for the remainder of the interval. It should not be spiky. Achieving this can be difficult because of natural variation in the terrain. When you are climbing a steep slope it is ‘easy’ enough to maintain a higher HR but when things flatten out your HR will drop. To avoid this, you need to move into a higher gear and up your cadence to maintain the effort when the slope flattens out. You will probably find that your HR creeps up over the course of an interval - this is a sign of tiredness, dehydration etc. and is t be expected.

Finally, having said all this, there is a place and time for the ‘go hard as you can for as long as you can’ training. This generally takes place once you have a good fitness base and amps up your power and, more importantly, your mental capacity to deal with really hard efforts which are fundamental to racing.
Originally posted by ericag View Post
Zzzzzzzzzz :) ha ha, I'll start with one 10second one and work from there
So 10 sec Hard and how long is the recovery?
‘go hard as you can for as long as you can’

That's sounds like a perfect description of a club league race

T
Originally posted by TerenceO View Post
‘go hard as you can for as long as you can’

That's sounds like a perfect description of a club league race

T
Looking forward to them already :-)
Luckily for most club riders there is absolutely no need to carry on with any of this malarky.
You will improve beyond belief by just riding your bike as much as possible and i would say that its not until you are averaging between 6 and eight hours riding per week consistantly that you need to be thinking about this stuff.
Its very easy to fall into the trap of turning something you enjoy immensely into misery
Originally posted by Alfie View Post
Luckily for most club riders there is absolutely no need to carry on with any of this malarky.
You will improve beyond belief by just riding your bike as much as possible and i would say that its not until you are averaging between 6 and eight hours riding per week consistantly that you need to be thinking about this stuff.
Its very easy to fall into the trap of turning something you enjoy immensely into misery
Richie lives on in Alfie grow a tash will ye ...
Training: Intervals – the nerd stuff... So, why would you do intervals and how

Originally posted by Alfie View Post
Luckily for most club riders there is absolutely no need to carry on with any of this malarky.
You will improve beyond belief by just riding your bike as much as possible and i would say that its not until you are averaging between 6 and eight hours riding per week consistantly that you need to be thinking about this stuff.
Its very easy to fall into the trap of turning something you enjoy immensely into misery
I second this. It can become a very dark and lonely place if you start thinking too much about numbers. You have to be putting in the hours and setting goals before you even contemplate looking at this. Personally for me the constant watching numbers and being in the zone wears me down and I have to find a balance. Look, do what feels good and you will progress at your own steam. None of us will be world champs so enjoy your bike and don’t get caught up too much.


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Originally posted by PaulC86 View Post
I second this. It can become a very dark and lonely place if you start thinking too much about numbers. You have to be putting in the hours and setting goals before you even contemplate looking at this. Personally for me the constant watching numbers and being in the zone wears me down and I have to find a balance. Look do what feels good and you will progress at your own steam. None of us will be world champs so enjoy your bike and don’t get caught up too much.
I 3rd this! I purposely haven't done any intervals or other types of fitness training that I don't enjoy for a few years now and I am enjoying riding bikes more than ever. Don't forget there are other aspects of massively improving your riding apart from fitness too - bike control, cornering, jumping etc. which are very rewarding to work on improving. Like others have said just make sure you are enjoying it!
In the dark ages there was a view of ‘go hard as you can for as long as you can’ of training. And whist you can do this, for the vast majority of riders, it is difficult to sustain for any length of time and it will take a long time to recover from.

One day some evil genius came up with the idea of going hard for a set amount of time and easy for a set amount of time and the interval was born. Intervals can be any length: 15sec VERY hard/15sec recoveryx30 or 40sec REALLY hard/20sec recoveryx7 or a personal favourite – 60sec hard, 60 sec recoveryx16. The basic and obvious principle underlying intervals is that you go hard, recover, repeat. Over the course of your training session you will accumulate far more time training in high heart rate zones zone (and hence accumulate more training stress) than if you took the ‘going hard for as long as you can’ approach.

longer effort intervals (more than 8 minutes) and with a workout longer than one hour develop a type of fitness that enables you to sustain a high workload over varied terrain and over a prolonged period of time, i.e. the Tuesday evening intervals. This type of fitness is fundamental to all biking but particularly MTB’ing (because we spend most of our time climbing and descending and very little time on what could be described as flat).

Because these sessions tend to be near your functional threshold power (FTP – the average power (watts) output that you can sustain for a given period of time) they are uncomfortable and you have to talk yourself into and through them so they are good mental training as well.

Now for an interesting fact. The session should be ‘uncomfortable’ – not bleeding from the eyeballs... There is very little physical benefit from going at 95% of your Lactate Heart Rate Threshold (HRT) compared to 87%. For the purpose of any interval longer than 4 minutes, HRT is roughly the equivalent of FTP. For intervals under 4 minutes, HRT is less accurate and you should use relative perceived effort (see here for a description of all this stuff... https://thesufferfest.com/blogs/trai...-afraid-to-ask)

To get the most out of the Tuesday intervals, you want to be going steady throughout. If you were to look at a line graph of heart rate afterwards, the line should climb up to your target and stay there for the remainder of the interval. It should not be spiky. Achieving this can be difficult because of natural variation in the terrain. When you are climbing a steep slope it is ‘easy’ enough to maintain a higher HR but when things flatten out your HR will drop. To avoid this, you need to move into a higher gear and up your cadence to maintain the effort when the slope flattens out. You will probably find that your HR creeps up over the course of an interval - this is a sign of tiredness, dehydration etc. and is t be expected.

Finally, having said all this, there is a place and time for the ‘go hard as you can for as long as you can’ training. This generally takes place once you have a good fitness base and amps up your power and, more importantly, your mental capacity to deal with really hard efforts which are fundamental to racing.
Originally posted by ericag View Post
Zzzzzzzzzz :) ha ha, I'll start with one 10second one and work from there
So 10 sec Hard and how long is the recovery?
‘go hard as you can for as long as you can’

That's sounds like a perfect description of a club league race

T
Originally posted by TerenceO View Post
‘go hard as you can for as long as you can’

That's sounds like a perfect description of a club league race

T
Looking forward to them already :-)
Luckily for most club riders there is absolutely no need to carry on with any of this malarky.
You will improve beyond belief by just riding your bike as much as possible and i would say that its not until you are averaging between 6 and eight hours riding per week consistantly that you need to be thinking about this stuff.
Its very easy to fall into the trap of turning something you enjoy immensely into misery
Originally posted by Alfie View Post
Luckily for most club riders there is absolutely no need to carry on with any of this malarky.
You will improve beyond belief by just riding your bike as much as possible and i would say that its not until you are averaging between 6 and eight hours riding per week consistantly that you need to be thinking about this stuff.
Its very easy to fall into the trap of turning something you enjoy immensely into misery
Richie lives on in Alfie grow a tash will ye ...
Training: Intervals – the nerd stuff... So, why would you do intervals and how

Originally posted by Alfie View Post
Luckily for most club riders there is absolutely no need to carry on with any of this malarky.
You will improve beyond belief by just riding your bike as much as possible and i would say that its not until you are averaging between 6 and eight hours riding per week consistantly that you need to be thinking about this stuff.
Its very easy to fall into the trap of turning something you enjoy immensely into misery
I second this. It can become a very dark and lonely place if you start thinking too much about numbers. You have to be putting in the hours and setting goals before you even contemplate looking at this. Personally for me the constant watching numbers and being in the zone wears me down and I have to find a balance. Look, do what feels good and you will progress at your own steam. None of us will be world champs so enjoy your bike and don’t get caught up too much.


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Originally posted by PaulC86 View Post
I second this. It can become a very dark and lonely place if you start thinking too much about numbers. You have to be putting in the hours and setting goals before you even contemplate looking at this. Personally for me the constant watching numbers and being in the zone wears me down and I have to find a balance. Look do what feels good and you will progress at your own steam. None of us will be world champs so enjoy your bike and don’t get caught up too much.
I 3rd this! I purposely haven't done any intervals or other types of fitness training that I don't enjoy for a few years now and I am enjoying riding bikes more than ever. Don't forget there are other aspects of massively improving your riding apart from fitness too - bike control, cornering, jumping etc. which are very rewarding to work on improving. Like others have said just make sure you are enjoying it!