Pedal Driven

Richie, not a bad idea however I think what you would achieve through that would be a load of Ballyhoura type trail centres, but that will not solve our issues about being able to ride freely around 3 Rock, Djouce and freeriding through Wicklow etc etc
It will satisfy those who are happy with trail centre riding, but not those of us who like the more rural/wilderness style of MTB, if that makes sense!
Originally posted by Sutty View Post
Richie, not a bad idea however I think what you would achieve through that would be a load of Ballyhoura type trail centres, but that will not solve our issues about being able to ride freely around 3 Rock, Djouce and freeriding through Wicklow etc etc
It will satisfy those who are happy with trail centre riding, but not those of us who like the more rural/wilderness style of MTB, if that makes sense!
I would not draw that conclusion just yet! The film shows how mountain bikers got together to build their own trails legally and with co-operation from the Forestry service. The alternative was that building your own (illegal) trails was an offence in the eyes of the law. And illegal trails were actively destroyed by rangers etc….

Anyhow, stay positive on this, and I will be arranging a screening of the full version of “Pedal-Driven” soon, see what you think after watching it…

As Richie says, it’s a bit “touchy-feely”, though it should give some inspiration….
Originally posted by Sutty View Post
Richie, not a bad idea however I think what you would achieve through that would be a load of Ballyhoura type trail centres, but that will not solve our issues about being able to ride freely around 3 Rock, Djouce and freeriding through Wicklow etc etc
It will satisfy those who are happy with trail centre riding, but not those of us who like the more rural/wilderness style of MTB, if that makes sense!
I didn't get that from it at all Sutty, I'll have to look at it again ..Happy Christmas !
maybe im completelywrong but is the idea that we are not looking for millions to be spent on trail centres but just to be decriminalised on existing trails ?
Originally posted by jackson View Post
maybe im completelywrong but is the idea that we are not looking for millions to be spent on trail centres but just to be decriminalised on existing trails ?
That's part of it... :)
Does anyone else think these video are actually counter productive?
Bikes jumping through the air - faceless rider with full helmets, bikes
flying down hill and skidding round corners..

Self righteous walkers or just Joe public would naturally be concerned that they will encounter some faceless speeding mtb screaming around the corner of the trail

What should really be show is the reality of mountaining biking in the irish mountains , slow pace of mtb'ing 90% of the time, average speeds of 8KPH and slow heads like me walking the bike up a hill - thats what really happens 90% of the time and people would then really wonder what all the fuss is about
Originally posted by oldskool View Post
slow heads like me walking the bike up a hill - thats what really happens 90% of the time and people would then really wonder what all the fuss is about
No one wants to see that film Trenchy! :)
Originally posted by oldskool View Post
Does anyone else think these video are actually counter productive?
Bikes jumping through the air - faceless rider with full helmets, bikes
flying down hill and skidding round corners..

Self righteous walkers or just Joe public would naturally be concerned that they will encounter some faceless speeding mtb screaming around the corner of the trail

What should really be show is the reality of mountaining biking in the irish mountains , slow pace of mtb'ing 90% of the time, average speeds of 8KPH and slow heads like me walking the bike up a hill - thats what really happens 90% of the time and people would then really wonder what all the fuss is about
Yea what he said.
Originally posted by jackson View Post
maybe im completelywrong but is the idea that we are not looking for millions to be spent on trail centres but just to be decriminalised on existing trails ?
did i interpret this whole thing wrong, I thought that,that was what it was all about too !
Originally posted by oldskool View Post
Does anyone else think these video are actually counter productive?
Bikes jumping through the air - faceless rider with full helmets, bikes
flying down hill and skidding round corners..

Self righteous walkers or just Joe public would naturally be concerned that they will encounter some faceless speeding mtb screaming around the corner of the trail

What should really be show is the reality of mountaining biking in the irish mountains , slow pace of mtb'ing 90% of the time, average speeds of 8KPH and slow heads like me walking the bike up a hill - thats what really happens 90% of the time and people would then really wonder what all the fuss is about
ask me bollix !!
Originally posted by Byrner View Post
did i interpret this whole thing wrong, I thought that,that was what it was all about too !
Basically, that's what the film is about anyways, bikers being criminalised for mountain biking.

Our focus is what caused the current problem, i.e. no permit for a race in Djouce Woods...
Richie, not a bad idea however I think what you would achieve through that would be a load of Ballyhoura type trail centres, but that will not solve our issues about being able to ride freely around 3 Rock, Djouce and freeriding through Wicklow etc etc
It will satisfy those who are happy with trail centre riding, but not those of us who like the more rural/wilderness style of MTB, if that makes sense!
Originally posted by Sutty View Post
Richie, not a bad idea however I think what you would achieve through that would be a load of Ballyhoura type trail centres, but that will not solve our issues about being able to ride freely around 3 Rock, Djouce and freeriding through Wicklow etc etc
It will satisfy those who are happy with trail centre riding, but not those of us who like the more rural/wilderness style of MTB, if that makes sense!
I would not draw that conclusion just yet! The film shows how mountain bikers got together to build their own trails legally and with co-operation from the Forestry service. The alternative was that building your own (illegal) trails was an offence in the eyes of the law. And illegal trails were actively destroyed by rangers etc….

Anyhow, stay positive on this, and I will be arranging a screening of the full version of “Pedal-Driven” soon, see what you think after watching it…

As Richie says, it’s a bit “touchy-feely”, though it should give some inspiration….
Originally posted by Sutty View Post
Richie, not a bad idea however I think what you would achieve through that would be a load of Ballyhoura type trail centres, but that will not solve our issues about being able to ride freely around 3 Rock, Djouce and freeriding through Wicklow etc etc
It will satisfy those who are happy with trail centre riding, but not those of us who like the more rural/wilderness style of MTB, if that makes sense!
I didn't get that from it at all Sutty, I'll have to look at it again ..Happy Christmas !
maybe im completelywrong but is the idea that we are not looking for millions to be spent on trail centres but just to be decriminalised on existing trails ?
Originally posted by jackson View Post
maybe im completelywrong but is the idea that we are not looking for millions to be spent on trail centres but just to be decriminalised on existing trails ?
That's part of it... :)
Does anyone else think these video are actually counter productive?
Bikes jumping through the air - faceless rider with full helmets, bikes
flying down hill and skidding round corners..

Self righteous walkers or just Joe public would naturally be concerned that they will encounter some faceless speeding mtb screaming around the corner of the trail

What should really be show is the reality of mountaining biking in the irish mountains , slow pace of mtb'ing 90% of the time, average speeds of 8KPH and slow heads like me walking the bike up a hill - thats what really happens 90% of the time and people would then really wonder what all the fuss is about
Originally posted by oldskool View Post
slow heads like me walking the bike up a hill - thats what really happens 90% of the time and people would then really wonder what all the fuss is about
No one wants to see that film Trenchy! :)
Originally posted by oldskool View Post
Does anyone else think these video are actually counter productive?
Bikes jumping through the air - faceless rider with full helmets, bikes
flying down hill and skidding round corners..

Self righteous walkers or just Joe public would naturally be concerned that they will encounter some faceless speeding mtb screaming around the corner of the trail

What should really be show is the reality of mountaining biking in the irish mountains , slow pace of mtb'ing 90% of the time, average speeds of 8KPH and slow heads like me walking the bike up a hill - thats what really happens 90% of the time and people would then really wonder what all the fuss is about
Yea what he said.
Originally posted by jackson View Post
maybe im completelywrong but is the idea that we are not looking for millions to be spent on trail centres but just to be decriminalised on existing trails ?
did i interpret this whole thing wrong, I thought that,that was what it was all about too !
Originally posted by oldskool View Post
Does anyone else think these video are actually counter productive?
Bikes jumping through the air - faceless rider with full helmets, bikes
flying down hill and skidding round corners..

Self righteous walkers or just Joe public would naturally be concerned that they will encounter some faceless speeding mtb screaming around the corner of the trail

What should really be show is the reality of mountaining biking in the irish mountains , slow pace of mtb'ing 90% of the time, average speeds of 8KPH and slow heads like me walking the bike up a hill - thats what really happens 90% of the time and people would then really wonder what all the fuss is about
ask me bollix !!
Originally posted by Byrner View Post
did i interpret this whole thing wrong, I thought that,that was what it was all about too !
Basically, that's what the film is about anyways, bikers being criminalised for mountain biking.

Our focus is what caused the current problem, i.e. no permit for a race in Djouce Woods...