clipless pedals float

Hey

I'm trying to figure out what might have cotributed to my knee pain and given the fact that it started after I fitted new crankset, cleats and seatpost.
The crankset is same lenght and width as the previous one and the seat hight and fore/aft position is also same as before. I noticed that with new cleats there is less float so maybe that?

Eggbeaters are supposed to have more float than SPD so I thought maybe I could give them a try? Would anybody have a pair I could borrow for about 2 weeks?

Any other suggestions?

Max
I once had a similar problem and this worked for me. Sit on the edge of a table with your feet dangling down naturally. Look down at your feet and see the angle they are pointing at (each foot might be a different angle). Then adjust the cleats on your shoes so that your feet are at the same angles or as close as possible when sitting on the bike clipped in.
The problem for me was that the angle that the cleats were at meant my feet were foreced to point further in than they should have been which was causing the knee pain. Setting the correct foot angle has helped a number of people I know.
Hey Max, I have a pair of crank bro candy pedals and cleats you can try out if you like.
Originally posted by oisin View Post
I once had a similar problem and this worked for me. Sit on the edge of a table with your feet dangling down naturally. Look down at your feet and see the angle they are pointing at (each foot might be a different angle). Then adjust the cleats on your shoes so that your feet are at the same angles or as close as possible when sitting on the bike clipped in.
The problem for me was that the angle that the cleats were at meant my feet were foreced to point further in than they should have been which was causing the knee pain. Setting the correct foot angle has helped a number of people I know.
I've heard this a few times over the years. Seems credible.
Dr. OZ?
i've had savage knee pain for a while ..i couldn't figure out why..until I realised that somehow I had stripped the teeth inside the non drive crank arm and the crank had moved..so the freaking cranks were offset to each other !!..I know this is not whats causing your problem, but you never know their might be some sort of eccentric messing going on down below there !!
Last night I had a pain in the knee free spin once I replaced the crank arm !! !!
feckin bicycles !!
Originally posted by oisin View Post
I once had a similar problem and this worked for me. Sit on the edge of a table with your feet dangling down naturally. Look down at your feet and see the angle they are pointing at (each foot might be a different angle). Then adjust the cleats on your shoes so that your feet are at the same angles or as close as possible when sitting on the bike clipped in.
The problem for me was that the angle that the cleats were at meant my feet were foreced to point further in than they should have been which was causing the knee pain. Setting the correct foot angle has helped a number of people I know.
Hello, i thought everybody did that ?
This illustrates the problem clearly. Just make sure you are sitting at right angles to the table, or you'll need a fricken scientific calculator to figure at the angle.

Originally posted by oisin View Post
I once had a similar problem and this worked for me. Sit on the edge of a table with your feet dangling down naturally. Look down at your feet and see the angle they are pointing at (each foot might be a different angle). Then adjust the cleats on your shoes so that your feet are at the same angles or as close as possible when sitting on the bike clipped in.
The problem for me was that the angle that the cleats were at meant my feet were foreced to point further in than they should have been which was causing the knee pain. Setting the correct foot angle has helped a number of people I know.
Thanks Oisin, I will try that. I thought I installed the new cleats in the exact same spot as the old ones but the old ones were worn out and allowed for more float I suppose..
Max
Kneel of a chair and look back at your feet, you’ll be surprised how much your toe’s stick out and also how bad the angle from inside to outside on the foot will be, you can get shoe inserts to compensate if it’s really bad, but normally toeing in the cleats and hence out the feet will work.
Another factor can be if the seat is too low or too far forward/back.
Or maybe you just push the pedals too hard???
There are different types of shimano cleats with some having greater degrees of float than others, if you are sure you fitted the new cleats in the same position as your old ones, maybe the cleat type is different?
The cleats are the same and the shoes are good... but here is what I've found:

I put back the old cleats and there seems to be a good 5mm more float 'toe out' and my knees probably got used to this over the winter. Then 2 weeks ago I installed a new ones and did the club race and 80k spin without breaking them in first or double checking alignment (lesson for the future!) which I think might have been enough to strain the knee.
Anyway, I'll go for another easy spin on Friday and hopefully it will be better!

If you have any other suggestions (Dr. OZ?) PM me, this thread is long enough...

Max