Lights agains!!!!!!!!!

Have been doing this for couple of seasons, lookin to lighten the lid weight and have no cables!!
joystick is a great light and i love it's simplicity and on your own it's all you need but in a group night ride it can get swamped by other riders brighter lights and it can be difficult to pick a line, or maybe i can't see for **** in the dark, anyway i'd get something brighter.
if you use it with the white light attachment you get 480 lumens for 1.5hrs. thats the same as the hope 2 with no battery or wires.
whats the difference in price between a joystick and the Hopes ? I like the Exposure lights, i like the lack of wires too ..
I think I paid about 100-150 a few years ago for the joystick, the add on ROnan is suggestion is about 50.
Where did you buy the White Eye Ronan?
Eamonn - i have the white eye - CRC - not great - while out with Dave K last night I was still getting what you accuratly describe as swamping (with the 'eye' and the joystick combined)- if you have a rider behind you - you'll only see shawdow - AndyW's Exposure light is like the sun! (MaxxD or something) The joystick has only 1/4 the power. Dave's light is exceptionally bright too, but the joystick is great if you get your own space - someone on your back wheel & you can't see nuthin'

You can have a loan of mine if you wanna check it out.
forget about those joysticks then..i can't fault the Hopes at all..and Daveks is a Hope4..really kids, does it need to be tattooed on your heads ?
we've done all your normal common or garden nightrides in all weathers over 2 years with Hope 2s and some serious extreme to the awesome ones as well, without a hitch.
I've a video somewhere of an early night ride somewhere , everreadys and petzyls !!
Everyreadys - that's a blast from the past, my first night spin down the Minaun in Waterford was with a petzel and an everready, we used to put a 4.5V battery (like the ones in the Petzl) into the Everyready and a Krypton bulb, brighter but kept blowing, you would get about one and a half runs in before the bulb went, always a classic moment!
Originally posted by Byrner View Post
forget about those joysticks then..i can't fault the Hopes at all..and Daveks is a Hope4..really kids, does it need to be tattooed on your heads ?
we've done all your normal common or garden nightrides in all weathers over 2 years with Hope 2s and some serious extreme to the awesome ones as well, without a hitch.
I've a video somewhere of an early night ride somewhere , everreadys and petzyls !!
he has a hope 2 already but thinks its to heavy for his poor head so the hope 2 is going on the handle bars and he wants a light for his head thats not to heavy. hence the joystick. Don't you guys read anything apart from the last post. FFS.

ps all i use is the joystick and the white light.
It's a can of worms issue and looks like it will continue to run!!!!!
I agree with Ritchie Hope V 2 are suffice.......perhaps i should settle for what i've got and to avoid swamping, applied the attitude of

"GO HARD OR GO HOME!!"
Loved the tone of your reply......RonanD

I would think there always a way to improve a situation......????
your right..... You could go down the Richardl route and have the exposure d maxx on your handle bars and on your helmet. The only thing with that is there will be airplanes following you round and trying to land on you.
Have been doing this for couple of seasons, lookin to lighten the lid weight and have no cables!!
joystick is a great light and i love it's simplicity and on your own it's all you need but in a group night ride it can get swamped by other riders brighter lights and it can be difficult to pick a line, or maybe i can't see for **** in the dark, anyway i'd get something brighter.
if you use it with the white light attachment you get 480 lumens for 1.5hrs. thats the same as the hope 2 with no battery or wires.
whats the difference in price between a joystick and the Hopes ? I like the Exposure lights, i like the lack of wires too ..
I think I paid about 100-150 a few years ago for the joystick, the add on ROnan is suggestion is about 50.
Where did you buy the White Eye Ronan?
Eamonn - i have the white eye - CRC - not great - while out with Dave K last night I was still getting what you accuratly describe as swamping (with the 'eye' and the joystick combined)- if you have a rider behind you - you'll only see shawdow - AndyW's Exposure light is like the sun! (MaxxD or something) The joystick has only 1/4 the power. Dave's light is exceptionally bright too, but the joystick is great if you get your own space - someone on your back wheel & you can't see nuthin'

You can have a loan of mine if you wanna check it out.
forget about those joysticks then..i can't fault the Hopes at all..and Daveks is a Hope4..really kids, does it need to be tattooed on your heads ?
we've done all your normal common or garden nightrides in all weathers over 2 years with Hope 2s and some serious extreme to the awesome ones as well, without a hitch.
I've a video somewhere of an early night ride somewhere , everreadys and petzyls !!
Everyreadys - that's a blast from the past, my first night spin down the Minaun in Waterford was with a petzel and an everready, we used to put a 4.5V battery (like the ones in the Petzl) into the Everyready and a Krypton bulb, brighter but kept blowing, you would get about one and a half runs in before the bulb went, always a classic moment!
Originally posted by Byrner View Post
forget about those joysticks then..i can't fault the Hopes at all..and Daveks is a Hope4..really kids, does it need to be tattooed on your heads ?
we've done all your normal common or garden nightrides in all weathers over 2 years with Hope 2s and some serious extreme to the awesome ones as well, without a hitch.
I've a video somewhere of an early night ride somewhere , everreadys and petzyls !!
he has a hope 2 already but thinks its to heavy for his poor head so the hope 2 is going on the handle bars and he wants a light for his head thats not to heavy. hence the joystick. Don't you guys read anything apart from the last post. FFS.

ps all i use is the joystick and the white light.
It's a can of worms issue and looks like it will continue to run!!!!!
I agree with Ritchie Hope V 2 are suffice.......perhaps i should settle for what i've got and to avoid swamping, applied the attitude of

"GO HARD OR GO HOME!!"
Loved the tone of your reply......RonanD

I would think there always a way to improve a situation......????
your right..... You could go down the Richardl route and have the exposure d maxx on your handle bars and on your helmet. The only thing with that is there will be airplanes following you round and trying to land on you.