Jump practice

Alright ye club of dh kings, see im getting the arse licking in before i ask for your help!! I want to learn how to jump properly like the first few lads in that Kilbrony video (well in my dreams) Bar heading out every weekend and riding some trails which im at anyway, is there owt else i can do?

Is there any specific trails that would lend themselves to working on your jumping or would there be any point buidling myself a little ramp and practicing in the apartment car park?

Answers on a post card.....:)
St Annes has all manner of things, fun place to start, just start small and don't get carried away (as I was on stretcher).
was thinking bout there alright Don but not so sure if they are happy with people being out there with swampthings or highrollers, the only 2 sets of tyres i have!!
history notes that you just went for a innocent nap beside a big drop, next thing people started screaming and waving their hands in the air and carted you off on said stretcher
no wonder you were confused when you woke up
swamps and highrollers would be a no no out in there, they tear the tracks up way too much.
Mike, if you want to learn how to Jump, take your time. I am not an expert on learning to jump by any means, but I have seen too many eager riders broken up by this notion that learning to jump is essential to being a great Downhiller.
Perfect the other skills first, like cornering and pumping through hard sections, as soon as you gain the confidence from actually putting plenty of miles in on the bike, the confidence to jump will come.
At your level now you should be able to do the jumps in Cloon..work on them till you can land each one perfectly set up for the next one.

Anybody can fire themselves off anything, but its the things that come next that are more important.
I've a pain in me bollix hearing about people breaking themselves up on tiny little jumps because they were made feel like they weren't a Downhiller until they could jump. Work up to it, there are no short cuts,
Richie
So what is the tyre etiquette in St. Annes. Are short knobs acceptable ( ha ha) like a race type tyre or do they need to be street tyres?
Well said Byrner, I don't like being airborn, I used to right until I woke up in hospital, but not any more, I am now a master at getting around obstacles quickly. I will be running a jump avoidance day soon, stay tuned.
Jumping is all about technique...

You can if you want just fire yourself off any ramp at high speed and consider it a jump... but sure anyone can go fast in a straight line if they want... it certainly doesn't mean they are a deadly biker in any way..

I can get myself air-born using only a small rock or lip a few inches off the ground... again, it's all about technique...

Start small... setting up a ramp in the carpark is a good idea.. as a kid I learnt to jump by launching myself off the curbs in my estate..

Learning the basic technique of bunny hopping is also a good way to start... you'd be better off trying to do it without being clipped in though.. this way you'll learn true ninja-like-bike-handling-skills... and be a better rider for it...
MadMike, throw on a pair of old worn tyres that you may have in the shed etc.

if you dont have any Im sure every1 here can give u a pair.

Or you can run your highrollers the fast way and bring a small shovel to corrrect any damage u do to the trails. once you stick to the small jumps you should be fine.

i cant help you if you go near the big line cos stevo will get all whupasso on ya!!!
Originally posted by Byrner View Post
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Perfect the other skills first, like cornering and pumping through hard sections, as soon as you gain the confidence from actually putting plenty of miles in on the bike, the confidence to jump will come.
At your level now you should be able to do the jumps in Cloon..work on them till you can land each one perfectly set up for the next one.

Richie
Originally posted by Mac the Knife View Post
Jumping is all about technique...

Start small... setting up a ramp in the carpark is a good idea.. as a kid I learnt to jump by launching myself off the curbs in my estate..

Learning the basic technique of bunny hopping is also a good way to start... you'd be better off trying to do it without being clipped in though.. this way you'll learn true ninja-like-bike-handling-skills... and be a better rider for it...
I hear what you are saying Richie i know its only a part of the whole package but 1 that annoys me. I can get over the jumps in Cloon without snotting myself but with no great technique. I have watched fundamental's sections on bunnyhoppin and the like but seem to always forget the technique when i try it in a run.

Think i might make up a small ramp for myself as the Mac says and practice the basics in controled area with no ruts etc. Then i suppose its about getting it right there and bringing out to the trails. Have to learn how to do a manual as well. Im gonna get strange looks in the carpark :)
whupasso indeed..

seriously though, what richie said!!!
i see it way to often out in annes, people trying to kill themselves on some of the jumps when they have not really figured out some of the basics.
the pump track is an amazing place for learning stuff without getting all broken.
and just bunnyhop every curb on your way to work...

the whole tire thing in annes is this;
tires like highrollers and whatever else cut the ground up really badly so it makes it very difficult to keep the trails nice and smooth.
slick tires have more than enough grip in annes when its dry and also they help to keep everything packed nice and tight and your bike will roll faster.
we are not some sort of tire nazis, if you make some sort of effort to run the smoothest tire available to you and help out a little then its all happydays

riding in the wet is also really not cool, its too slippy you might die and the jumps get messed up.


enjoy it madmike
Originally posted by Byrner View Post
Perfect the other skills first, like cornering and pumping through hard sections

Hey Mike like the guys said you'll break youreself if you dive right in.. get comfy on the bike first like Byrner said pump and corners is half the battle. If you wanna pop out the Annes this weekend you can roll the pump for a while there's also a kiddie line which we built specifically for people who wanna learn the trade, there's also a couple of blue run single jumps also scattered around the place.

No big knobly tires please, you wouldn't show up at a road race with a full face, its the same here. old very worn xc tires are grand, its what i run, also semi slick tires are perfect.

It takes alot of time to manacure the trails, we dont wanna set stevo on you..

hope you can make it.

M
I totally understand the tire thing, i have been out in st annes and have seen all the effort ye boys made. There's no way i would head over and wreck the place.

The pump track seems like a good way of working on that element but dont think ill make it this weekend as some of us MAD heads are going down to Bree. Thanks for the invite anyhow, must get myself some baldy tires in the meantime
Id agree with richie he can make a lot sense sometimes.

however i think if you wanna learn you wanna learn. Im in the same boat at the moment and think getting over jumps well, is as important as any other part of the track. it all takes work but sure its all those variations together that makes the buzz.

Id recommend building a small table top somewhere. then as you start learning picking the bike up off the ramp and clearing the top, to landing on the transition youll pick up a few bike skills. then when you get more confident build the table top bigger and then eventually, when your good and ready take out the middle and try it as a gap jump.
I'm scared s***less of those things myself, but I'm working my way to it.

Im not at that stage yet but I am clearing a decent size table top and getting to cross up the bars a bit and maybe a one inch whip [haha] . Its giving me a bit of confidence on hitting landings and trying to sort out straight bars and weight etc....


In theory it should work and get you some confidence with the bike.

oh and Its not big at all but I was down in Bree recently and I thought the table top at the top section might be the type of thing your looking for.
Alright ye club of dh kings, see im getting the arse licking in before i ask for your help!! I want to learn how to jump properly like the first few lads in that Kilbrony video (well in my dreams) Bar heading out every weekend and riding some trails which im at anyway, is there owt else i can do?

Is there any specific trails that would lend themselves to working on your jumping or would there be any point buidling myself a little ramp and practicing in the apartment car park?

Answers on a post card.....:)
St Annes has all manner of things, fun place to start, just start small and don't get carried away (as I was on stretcher).
was thinking bout there alright Don but not so sure if they are happy with people being out there with swampthings or highrollers, the only 2 sets of tyres i have!!
history notes that you just went for a innocent nap beside a big drop, next thing people started screaming and waving their hands in the air and carted you off on said stretcher
no wonder you were confused when you woke up
swamps and highrollers would be a no no out in there, they tear the tracks up way too much.
Mike, if you want to learn how to Jump, take your time. I am not an expert on learning to jump by any means, but I have seen too many eager riders broken up by this notion that learning to jump is essential to being a great Downhiller.
Perfect the other skills first, like cornering and pumping through hard sections, as soon as you gain the confidence from actually putting plenty of miles in on the bike, the confidence to jump will come.
At your level now you should be able to do the jumps in Cloon..work on them till you can land each one perfectly set up for the next one.

Anybody can fire themselves off anything, but its the things that come next that are more important.
I've a pain in me bollix hearing about people breaking themselves up on tiny little jumps because they were made feel like they weren't a Downhiller until they could jump. Work up to it, there are no short cuts,
Richie
So what is the tyre etiquette in St. Annes. Are short knobs acceptable ( ha ha) like a race type tyre or do they need to be street tyres?
Well said Byrner, I don't like being airborn, I used to right until I woke up in hospital, but not any more, I am now a master at getting around obstacles quickly. I will be running a jump avoidance day soon, stay tuned.
Jumping is all about technique...

You can if you want just fire yourself off any ramp at high speed and consider it a jump... but sure anyone can go fast in a straight line if they want... it certainly doesn't mean they are a deadly biker in any way..

I can get myself air-born using only a small rock or lip a few inches off the ground... again, it's all about technique...

Start small... setting up a ramp in the carpark is a good idea.. as a kid I learnt to jump by launching myself off the curbs in my estate..

Learning the basic technique of bunny hopping is also a good way to start... you'd be better off trying to do it without being clipped in though.. this way you'll learn true ninja-like-bike-handling-skills... and be a better rider for it...
MadMike, throw on a pair of old worn tyres that you may have in the shed etc.

if you dont have any Im sure every1 here can give u a pair.

Or you can run your highrollers the fast way and bring a small shovel to corrrect any damage u do to the trails. once you stick to the small jumps you should be fine.

i cant help you if you go near the big line cos stevo will get all whupasso on ya!!!
Originally posted by Byrner View Post
.
Perfect the other skills first, like cornering and pumping through hard sections, as soon as you gain the confidence from actually putting plenty of miles in on the bike, the confidence to jump will come.
At your level now you should be able to do the jumps in Cloon..work on them till you can land each one perfectly set up for the next one.

Richie
Originally posted by Mac the Knife View Post
Jumping is all about technique...

Start small... setting up a ramp in the carpark is a good idea.. as a kid I learnt to jump by launching myself off the curbs in my estate..

Learning the basic technique of bunny hopping is also a good way to start... you'd be better off trying to do it without being clipped in though.. this way you'll learn true ninja-like-bike-handling-skills... and be a better rider for it...
I hear what you are saying Richie i know its only a part of the whole package but 1 that annoys me. I can get over the jumps in Cloon without snotting myself but with no great technique. I have watched fundamental's sections on bunnyhoppin and the like but seem to always forget the technique when i try it in a run.

Think i might make up a small ramp for myself as the Mac says and practice the basics in controled area with no ruts etc. Then i suppose its about getting it right there and bringing out to the trails. Have to learn how to do a manual as well. Im gonna get strange looks in the carpark :)
whupasso indeed..

seriously though, what richie said!!!
i see it way to often out in annes, people trying to kill themselves on some of the jumps when they have not really figured out some of the basics.
the pump track is an amazing place for learning stuff without getting all broken.
and just bunnyhop every curb on your way to work...

the whole tire thing in annes is this;
tires like highrollers and whatever else cut the ground up really badly so it makes it very difficult to keep the trails nice and smooth.
slick tires have more than enough grip in annes when its dry and also they help to keep everything packed nice and tight and your bike will roll faster.
we are not some sort of tire nazis, if you make some sort of effort to run the smoothest tire available to you and help out a little then its all happydays

riding in the wet is also really not cool, its too slippy you might die and the jumps get messed up.


enjoy it madmike
Originally posted by Byrner View Post
Perfect the other skills first, like cornering and pumping through hard sections

Hey Mike like the guys said you'll break youreself if you dive right in.. get comfy on the bike first like Byrner said pump and corners is half the battle. If you wanna pop out the Annes this weekend you can roll the pump for a while there's also a kiddie line which we built specifically for people who wanna learn the trade, there's also a couple of blue run single jumps also scattered around the place.

No big knobly tires please, you wouldn't show up at a road race with a full face, its the same here. old very worn xc tires are grand, its what i run, also semi slick tires are perfect.

It takes alot of time to manacure the trails, we dont wanna set stevo on you..

hope you can make it.

M
I totally understand the tire thing, i have been out in st annes and have seen all the effort ye boys made. There's no way i would head over and wreck the place.

The pump track seems like a good way of working on that element but dont think ill make it this weekend as some of us MAD heads are going down to Bree. Thanks for the invite anyhow, must get myself some baldy tires in the meantime
Id agree with richie he can make a lot sense sometimes.

however i think if you wanna learn you wanna learn. Im in the same boat at the moment and think getting over jumps well, is as important as any other part of the track. it all takes work but sure its all those variations together that makes the buzz.

Id recommend building a small table top somewhere. then as you start learning picking the bike up off the ramp and clearing the top, to landing on the transition youll pick up a few bike skills. then when you get more confident build the table top bigger and then eventually, when your good and ready take out the middle and try it as a gap jump.
I'm scared s***less of those things myself, but I'm working my way to it.

Im not at that stage yet but I am clearing a decent size table top and getting to cross up the bars a bit and maybe a one inch whip [haha] . Its giving me a bit of confidence on hitting landings and trying to sort out straight bars and weight etc....


In theory it should work and get you some confidence with the bike.

oh and Its not big at all but I was down in Bree recently and I thought the table top at the top section might be the type of thing your looking for.
Alright ye club of dh kings, see im getting the arse licking in before i ask for your help!! I want to learn how to jump properly like the first few lads in that Kilbrony video (well in my dreams) Bar heading out every weekend and riding some trails which im at anyway, is there owt else i can do?

Is there any specific trails that would lend themselves to working on your jumping or would there be any point buidling myself a little ramp and practicing in the apartment car park?

Answers on a post card.....:)
St Annes has all manner of things, fun place to start, just start small and don't get carried away (as I was on stretcher).
was thinking bout there alright Don but not so sure if they are happy with people being out there with swampthings or highrollers, the only 2 sets of tyres i have!!
history notes that you just went for a innocent nap beside a big drop, next thing people started screaming and waving their hands in the air and carted you off on said stretcher
no wonder you were confused when you woke up
swamps and highrollers would be a no no out in there, they tear the tracks up way too much.
Mike, if you want to learn how to Jump, take your time. I am not an expert on learning to jump by any means, but I have seen too many eager riders broken up by this notion that learning to jump is essential to being a great Downhiller.
Perfect the other skills first, like cornering and pumping through hard sections, as soon as you gain the confidence from actually putting plenty of miles in on the bike, the confidence to jump will come.
At your level now you should be able to do the jumps in Cloon..work on them till you can land each one perfectly set up for the next one.

Anybody can fire themselves off anything, but its the things that come next that are more important.
I've a pain in me bollix hearing about people breaking themselves up on tiny little jumps because they were made feel like they weren't a Downhiller until they could jump. Work up to it, there are no short cuts,
Richie
So what is the tyre etiquette in St. Annes. Are short knobs acceptable ( ha ha) like a race type tyre or do they need to be street tyres?
Well said Byrner, I don't like being airborn, I used to right until I woke up in hospital, but not any more, I am now a master at getting around obstacles quickly. I will be running a jump avoidance day soon, stay tuned.
Jumping is all about technique...

You can if you want just fire yourself off any ramp at high speed and consider it a jump... but sure anyone can go fast in a straight line if they want... it certainly doesn't mean they are a deadly biker in any way..

I can get myself air-born using only a small rock or lip a few inches off the ground... again, it's all about technique...

Start small... setting up a ramp in the carpark is a good idea.. as a kid I learnt to jump by launching myself off the curbs in my estate..

Learning the basic technique of bunny hopping is also a good way to start... you'd be better off trying to do it without being clipped in though.. this way you'll learn true ninja-like-bike-handling-skills... and be a better rider for it...
MadMike, throw on a pair of old worn tyres that you may have in the shed etc.

if you dont have any Im sure every1 here can give u a pair.

Or you can run your highrollers the fast way and bring a small shovel to corrrect any damage u do to the trails. once you stick to the small jumps you should be fine.

i cant help you if you go near the big line cos stevo will get all whupasso on ya!!!
Originally posted by Byrner View Post
.
Perfect the other skills first, like cornering and pumping through hard sections, as soon as you gain the confidence from actually putting plenty of miles in on the bike, the confidence to jump will come.
At your level now you should be able to do the jumps in Cloon..work on them till you can land each one perfectly set up for the next one.

Richie
Originally posted by Mac the Knife View Post
Jumping is all about technique...

Start small... setting up a ramp in the carpark is a good idea.. as a kid I learnt to jump by launching myself off the curbs in my estate..

Learning the basic technique of bunny hopping is also a good way to start... you'd be better off trying to do it without being clipped in though.. this way you'll learn true ninja-like-bike-handling-skills... and be a better rider for it...
I hear what you are saying Richie i know its only a part of the whole package but 1 that annoys me. I can get over the jumps in Cloon without snotting myself but with no great technique. I have watched fundamental's sections on bunnyhoppin and the like but seem to always forget the technique when i try it in a run.

Think i might make up a small ramp for myself as the Mac says and practice the basics in controled area with no ruts etc. Then i suppose its about getting it right there and bringing out to the trails. Have to learn how to do a manual as well. Im gonna get strange looks in the carpark :)
whupasso indeed..

seriously though, what richie said!!!
i see it way to often out in annes, people trying to kill themselves on some of the jumps when they have not really figured out some of the basics.
the pump track is an amazing place for learning stuff without getting all broken.
and just bunnyhop every curb on your way to work...

the whole tire thing in annes is this;
tires like highrollers and whatever else cut the ground up really badly so it makes it very difficult to keep the trails nice and smooth.
slick tires have more than enough grip in annes when its dry and also they help to keep everything packed nice and tight and your bike will roll faster.
we are not some sort of tire nazis, if you make some sort of effort to run the smoothest tire available to you and help out a little then its all happydays

riding in the wet is also really not cool, its too slippy you might die and the jumps get messed up.


enjoy it madmike
Originally posted by Byrner View Post
Perfect the other skills first, like cornering and pumping through hard sections

Hey Mike like the guys said you'll break youreself if you dive right in.. get comfy on the bike first like Byrner said pump and corners is half the battle. If you wanna pop out the Annes this weekend you can roll the pump for a while there's also a kiddie line which we built specifically for people who wanna learn the trade, there's also a couple of blue run single jumps also scattered around the place.

No big knobly tires please, you wouldn't show up at a road race with a full face, its the same here. old very worn xc tires are grand, its what i run, also semi slick tires are perfect.

It takes alot of time to manacure the trails, we dont wanna set stevo on you..

hope you can make it.

M
I totally understand the tire thing, i have been out in st annes and have seen all the effort ye boys made. There's no way i would head over and wreck the place.

The pump track seems like a good way of working on that element but dont think ill make it this weekend as some of us MAD heads are going down to Bree. Thanks for the invite anyhow, must get myself some baldy tires in the meantime
Id agree with richie he can make a lot sense sometimes.

however i think if you wanna learn you wanna learn. Im in the same boat at the moment and think getting over jumps well, is as important as any other part of the track. it all takes work but sure its all those variations together that makes the buzz.

Id recommend building a small table top somewhere. then as you start learning picking the bike up off the ramp and clearing the top, to landing on the transition youll pick up a few bike skills. then when you get more confident build the table top bigger and then eventually, when your good and ready take out the middle and try it as a gap jump.
I'm scared s***less of those things myself, but I'm working my way to it.

Im not at that stage yet but I am clearing a decent size table top and getting to cross up the bars a bit and maybe a one inch whip [haha] . Its giving me a bit of confidence on hitting landings and trying to sort out straight bars and weight etc....


In theory it should work and get you some confidence with the bike.

oh and Its not big at all but I was down in Bree recently and I thought the table top at the top section might be the type of thing your looking for.