Newbie needs MTb

Just starting into mtb ing and I am looking to buy a bike size 17" to 18" all help appreciated.
You need to give more info than just I'm looking for a bike..

How much do you want to spend?
What kind off biking do you want to do?
Is it XC or DH or a bit of both..?

Here's my two cents...

If your only starting out then you should (must) start off on a hardtail.. its the best (only) way to learn how to handle a bike properly offroad.. starting off on a full sus is a bad idea as the bike will do the work for you and your bike skills (or lack of) will suffer because of it..

To become a proper mountainbiker you have to put in the time on a hardtail... anyone who goes straight to a full sus is soft and doesn't belong in this sport..!
Originally posted by Mac the Knife View Post
Here's my two cents...

If your only starting out then you should (must) start off on a hardtail.. its the best (only) way to learn how to handle a bike properly offroad.. starting off on a full sus is a bad idea as the bike will do the work for you and your bike skills (or lack of) will suffer because of it..

To become a proper mountainbiker you have to put in the time on a hardtail... anyone who goes straight to a full sus is soft and doesn't belong in this sport..!
Now thats 100% bang on advice !!
Originally posted by Mac the Knife View Post
You need to give more info than just I'm looking for a bike..

How much do you want to spend?
What kind off biking do you want to do?
Is it XC or DH or a bit of both..?

Here's my two cents...

If your only starting out then you should (must) start off on a hardtail.. its the best (only) way to learn how to handle a bike properly offroad.. starting off on a full sus is a bad idea as the bike will do the work for you and your bike skills (or lack of) will suffer because of it..

To become a proper mountainbiker you have to put in the time on a hardtail... anyone who goes straight to a full sus is soft and doesn't belong in this sport..!
Hardtail is what I am after, looking to spend up to about €500
Originally posted by Mac the Knife View Post
You need to give more info than just I'm looking for a bike..

How much do you want to spend?
What kind off biking do you want to do?
Is it XC or DH or a bit of both..?

Here's my two cents...

If your only starting out then you should (must) start off on a hardtail.. its the best (only) way to learn how to handle a bike properly offroad.. starting off on a full sus is a bad idea as the bike will do the work for you and your bike skills (or lack of) will suffer because of it..

To become a proper mountainbiker you have to put in the time on a hardtail... anyone who goes straight to a full sus is soft and doesn't belong in this sport..!
hmmm looks like il have to buy a hardtail for fear of being called soft ;D on topic as was said above it all depends on what your looking to do if your looking at doing DH though a full suspension bike is pretty much a necessity but seeing as nearly everyone starts off with a little bit of xc a hardtail would be the better choice, i was looking at this and saw a good review in bikeradar which seems nice as its a lovely affordable bike , the rest of the lads here might be able to point out if its any good though
Originally posted by Icyseanfitz View Post
if your looking at doing DH though a full suspension bike is pretty much a necessity
I disagree... a good long travel hardtail will be able for 95% of the DH tracks in Ireland... you might not break any records on the hardtail but you'll have balls of steel and it will give you so much confidence when you finally make the change to a full sus...
have a large "orange crush" all-mountain bike, great all-rounder, used condition but everything works great, light weight (around 26 lbs), high quaility parts, lookin for around 650 euro O.N.O.
Originally posted by mattock View Post
5ft 10" and 32" inside leg, why you ask?
I have a "small" Giant exc for 400 euro. Im 5ft 7" @ it was perfect. 5ft 10" might be a little tall though cheap is better than good ;D;D