Who are these guys?

that is Liam, the durty bastich..I seen it before..its all made up..none of those places exist..
just look at the videos fergal, you can see the green mad jerseys flashing around in them...
Personally I think this is a great idea - I've been out of mountain bikes for a (good!) few years and have found it really hard to find the trails again - particularly up 3-Rock - they all seems to have become unridable rocky gullys! At the same time I don't feel I'm fit enough yet to join the groups from here or MAD. I'd be happy to pay someone a reasonable amount of money to show me and my mates the way around! I'll be contacting them!
the only issue myself and others have with this, is that people come along and ride the trails we've built and never build one themselves or consider the effort that went in to them in the first place.
Some of them even pull down some of our features.
Someone else making money from someone else's work....

Not sure bout that!
exactly my sentiments. these guys, are they qualified guides ? do they have experience with groups ? Most of these trails were built by people who put huge time and effort into them only to discover herds of unskilled goobers tramping through the berms and avoiding the features.
Not good and in fact pretty fcukin ignorant if you want my opinion.
And just in case, I don't give a flying fcuk if people can't find the trails. Build some, like the rest of us had to. or join a club and learn some respect for the builders.
I hope I encounter these people on anything i've built, let them guide people around Ballinagoober if they want to..
Richie
So people will pay for something that the clubs do for free? We need to start charging for our services.
Originally posted by Byrner View Post
well all we can do is build anti goober trails..
How about a trail called 'Piano Wire'!!!

anyone who hasn't built it wont survive.

Left over bodies and bikes can be harvested for the good of the club!
******z

Its a bit Irish making money of the pain and sweat of others...Does these guides ever build trails? Inanyways im sure Collite will have something to say about unauthorized cycling guides advertising there grounds for business... Could totaly fcuk the whole thing up.
This is a load of bolli*..
Join a club and we'll show you these trails for free..at least you know that people like Morgan, Fergal and myself know what we are doing.
Anybody can put up a fancy website and charge money, don't be fools people, if you really want instruction by a proffessional, go on a Niall Davis training day, Firsttracks.com or totalexperience.com
These other people are unknown to all of us.
But like I say, MAD run beginner days, we have our social spins.
Don't line the pockets of chancers.
And you're right Skippy,
RichardL, don't waste your money, if you want to know where to go, just PM me and i'll give you all the info you need. Or put a post up here and somebody will show you around for nothing.
Richie
that is Liam, the durty bastich..I seen it before..its all made up..none of those places exist..
just look at the videos fergal, you can see the green mad jerseys flashing around in them...
Personally I think this is a great idea - I've been out of mountain bikes for a (good!) few years and have found it really hard to find the trails again - particularly up 3-Rock - they all seems to have become unridable rocky gullys! At the same time I don't feel I'm fit enough yet to join the groups from here or MAD. I'd be happy to pay someone a reasonable amount of money to show me and my mates the way around! I'll be contacting them!
the only issue myself and others have with this, is that people come along and ride the trails we've built and never build one themselves or consider the effort that went in to them in the first place.
Some of them even pull down some of our features.
Someone else making money from someone else's work....

Not sure bout that!
exactly my sentiments. these guys, are they qualified guides ? do they have experience with groups ? Most of these trails were built by people who put huge time and effort into them only to discover herds of unskilled goobers tramping through the berms and avoiding the features.
Not good and in fact pretty fcukin ignorant if you want my opinion.
And just in case, I don't give a flying fcuk if people can't find the trails. Build some, like the rest of us had to. or join a club and learn some respect for the builders.
I hope I encounter these people on anything i've built, let them guide people around Ballinagoober if they want to..
Richie
So people will pay for something that the clubs do for free? We need to start charging for our services.
Originally posted by Byrner View Post
well all we can do is build anti goober trails..
How about a trail called 'Piano Wire'!!!

anyone who hasn't built it wont survive.

Left over bodies and bikes can be harvested for the good of the club!
******z

Its a bit Irish making money of the pain and sweat of others...Does these guides ever build trails? Inanyways im sure Collite will have something to say about unauthorized cycling guides advertising there grounds for business... Could totaly fcuk the whole thing up.
This is a load of bolli*..
Join a club and we'll show you these trails for free..at least you know that people like Morgan, Fergal and myself know what we are doing.
Anybody can put up a fancy website and charge money, don't be fools people, if you really want instruction by a proffessional, go on a Niall Davis training day, Firsttracks.com or totalexperience.com
These other people are unknown to all of us.
But like I say, MAD run beginner days, we have our social spins.
Don't line the pockets of chancers.
And you're right Skippy,
RichardL, don't waste your money, if you want to know where to go, just PM me and i'll give you all the info you need. Or put a post up here and somebody will show you around for nothing.
Richie