I got an email from a mate yesterday
see below as it could affect our favourite sport.
and I hope it is a load of bull.
and mind you it never stopped us before,but just curious to hear the truth about our woods.
"There is some mention in newspapers of Coillte (the not-really-State-body in charge of forestry) being sold off to a Swiss-based investment company. A company that in a PR master-stroke, has employed our very own Bertie Ahern as some sort of director or advisor.
So is it true? I don't know. But I fear that it is, and I would love to find out the truth.
So just pause a moment and think. Where do you like to go cycling?
even if only occasionally, this could impact on your life in a major way. All of Coillte land could go into private ownership, with no requirement to give access to the public.
If anyone knows any more about this, I'd love to hear it. Even if (especially if!) it is to say "That's a load of bull, no truth to it, forget it."
Let me know.
G'Luck
I think you might find that they will then be managed better and facilities will improve.
it doesn't take a rocket scientist or an accountant to see the money that could be made by building a fine MTB Centre in Ticcknock, some of the best trail centres I've seen are in private forests.
this story has been going around for a while now ,similar scenario in uk it was on news last night,andrew doyle td has brought this up this week as he is opposed to the idea.im sure we have nothing to worry about when a fine upstanding character like bertie aherne is involved !!
The company is the International Forestry Fund (IFF) - this is being floating around in the media since late last year and has been variously rubbished and given credence by different parties. There is a good discussion on politics.ie about it.
The end game is not the the trees or the deer or the recreational use - its the land that Coillte own and more importantly the minerals underneath that land and the ownership of the rights to exploit those minerals.
Ask the question of all the candidates in the election that you encounter.
I admit its hard to visualise Coillte falling into private interests and the same interests restricting access. Then again, it was hard to see the IMF taking over the country either.
thats a valid point richie has there,i would be a bit concerned about somewhere like the leadmines becoming a shopping centre though.most forests wouldnt really have development potential
Your man McCarthy has a report on selling public assets coming out soon and it'll be recommended to sell. I doubt it'll happen though, there would be uproar. Fine Gael and Labour have ruled it out.
The trails in Rotarua over in NZ are in a private forest and it's deadly.
thats a valid point richie has there,i would be a bit concerned about somewhere like the leadmines becoming a shopping centre though.most forests wouldnt really have development potential
The McCarthy report (An Bord Snip) recommended that Coillte be sold lock stock and barrel to raise funds for the Irish Government.
You are delusional if you think prospective buyers are going to want to run it as an recreational business.
maybe not primarily, but you never know what they might do, I would have said you'd have been delusional not to think the IMF was coming.
Its a mad Country we live in so anythings possible.
Besides, its not going to stop me .
You are delusional if you think prospective buyers are going to want to run it as an recreational business.[/QUOTE]
i think you missed the point there,coillte is mainly a commercial enterprise ,the trees are planted to be harvested,however in the 30 years or more that takes for a relatively small investment a recreational sideline could be established with a regular return for example mountain bike trails
I'm telling you now in 10 years all our mtb trails will be tolled be Germans pretending to be Swiss, and it will be 300 Quackoos every 1000 metres. But I'm not worried though as all our bikes will be jet powered and controlled remotely. I look forward to mtbing in Morzine while getting the ironing done at home.
maybe not primarily, but you never know what they might do, I would have said you'd have been delusional not to think the IMF was coming.
Its a mad Country we live in so anythings possible.
Besides, its not going to stop me .
Yeah, fcuk them and keep ridin' !!!
It's like illegal downloads, until they come to your door with a big stick it won't stop you!
i know I'm voting for Jackson in the Election !! I wouldn't be knocking Bertie either, its obvious to me that we had our best years when he was in charge !!
it was only when he retired that things went to pot !
The lure is the 'carbon sink', tradeable on the world market. Depending on soil type & tree species, you're talking 1 tonne carbon per acre per year, as a guide. A figure of 1.6 bn euro has been mentioned. For 7% (Coillte owned) of our country. So you could buy the whole place for 22 bn?? Oh yeah, and Bertoine is fronting it. Carbon Trading is the new property. Yay...
I got an email from a mate yesterday
see below as it could affect our favourite sport.
and I hope it is a load of bull.
and mind you it never stopped us before,but just curious to hear the truth about our woods.
"There is some mention in newspapers of Coillte (the not-really-State-body in charge of forestry) being sold off to a Swiss-based investment company. A company that in a PR master-stroke, has employed our very own Bertie Ahern as some sort of director or advisor.
So is it true? I don't know. But I fear that it is, and I would love to find out the truth.
So just pause a moment and think. Where do you like to go cycling?
even if only occasionally, this could impact on your life in a major way. All of Coillte land could go into private ownership, with no requirement to give access to the public.
If anyone knows any more about this, I'd love to hear it. Even if (especially if!) it is to say "That's a load of bull, no truth to it, forget it."
Let me know.
G'Luck
I think you might find that they will then be managed better and facilities will improve.
it doesn't take a rocket scientist or an accountant to see the money that could be made by building a fine MTB Centre in Ticcknock, some of the best trail centres I've seen are in private forests.
this story has been going around for a while now ,similar scenario in uk it was on news last night,andrew doyle td has brought this up this week as he is opposed to the idea.im sure we have nothing to worry about when a fine upstanding character like bertie aherne is involved !!
The company is the International Forestry Fund (IFF) - this is being floating around in the media since late last year and has been variously rubbished and given credence by different parties. There is a good discussion on politics.ie about it.
The end game is not the the trees or the deer or the recreational use - its the land that Coillte own and more importantly the minerals underneath that land and the ownership of the rights to exploit those minerals.
Ask the question of all the candidates in the election that you encounter.
I admit its hard to visualise Coillte falling into private interests and the same interests restricting access. Then again, it was hard to see the IMF taking over the country either.
thats a valid point richie has there,i would be a bit concerned about somewhere like the leadmines becoming a shopping centre though.most forests wouldnt really have development potential
Your man McCarthy has a report on selling public assets coming out soon and it'll be recommended to sell. I doubt it'll happen though, there would be uproar. Fine Gael and Labour have ruled it out.
The trails in Rotarua over in NZ are in a private forest and it's deadly.
thats a valid point richie has there,i would be a bit concerned about somewhere like the leadmines becoming a shopping centre though.most forests wouldnt really have development potential
The McCarthy report (An Bord Snip) recommended that Coillte be sold lock stock and barrel to raise funds for the Irish Government.
You are delusional if you think prospective buyers are going to want to run it as an recreational business.
maybe not primarily, but you never know what they might do, I would have said you'd have been delusional not to think the IMF was coming.
Its a mad Country we live in so anythings possible.
Besides, its not going to stop me .
You are delusional if you think prospective buyers are going to want to run it as an recreational business.[/QUOTE]
i think you missed the point there,coillte is mainly a commercial enterprise ,the trees are planted to be harvested,however in the 30 years or more that takes for a relatively small investment a recreational sideline could be established with a regular return for example mountain bike trails
I'm telling you now in 10 years all our mtb trails will be tolled be Germans pretending to be Swiss, and it will be 300 Quackoos every 1000 metres. But I'm not worried though as all our bikes will be jet powered and controlled remotely. I look forward to mtbing in Morzine while getting the ironing done at home.
maybe not primarily, but you never know what they might do, I would have said you'd have been delusional not to think the IMF was coming.
Its a mad Country we live in so anythings possible.
Besides, its not going to stop me .
Yeah, fcuk them and keep ridin' !!!
It's like illegal downloads, until they come to your door with a big stick it won't stop you!
i know I'm voting for Jackson in the Election !! I wouldn't be knocking Bertie either, its obvious to me that we had our best years when he was in charge !!
it was only when he retired that things went to pot !
The lure is the 'carbon sink', tradeable on the world market. Depending on soil type & tree species, you're talking 1 tonne carbon per acre per year, as a guide. A figure of 1.6 bn euro has been mentioned. For 7% (Coillte owned) of our country. So you could buy the whole place for 22 bn?? Oh yeah, and Bertoine is fronting it. Carbon Trading is the new property. Yay...
I got an email from a mate yesterday
see below as it could affect our favourite sport.
and I hope it is a load of bull.
and mind you it never stopped us before,but just curious to hear the truth about our woods.
"There is some mention in newspapers of Coillte (the not-really-State-body in charge of forestry) being sold off to a Swiss-based investment company. A company that in a PR master-stroke, has employed our very own Bertie Ahern as some sort of director or advisor.
So is it true? I don't know. But I fear that it is, and I would love to find out the truth.
So just pause a moment and think. Where do you like to go cycling?
even if only occasionally, this could impact on your life in a major way. All of Coillte land could go into private ownership, with no requirement to give access to the public.
If anyone knows any more about this, I'd love to hear it. Even if (especially if!) it is to say "That's a load of bull, no truth to it, forget it."
Let me know.
G'Luck
I think you might find that they will then be managed better and facilities will improve.
it doesn't take a rocket scientist or an accountant to see the money that could be made by building a fine MTB Centre in Ticcknock, some of the best trail centres I've seen are in private forests.
this story has been going around for a while now ,similar scenario in uk it was on news last night,andrew doyle td has brought this up this week as he is opposed to the idea.im sure we have nothing to worry about when a fine upstanding character like bertie aherne is involved !!
The company is the International Forestry Fund (IFF) - this is being floating around in the media since late last year and has been variously rubbished and given credence by different parties. There is a good discussion on politics.ie about it.
The end game is not the the trees or the deer or the recreational use - its the land that Coillte own and more importantly the minerals underneath that land and the ownership of the rights to exploit those minerals.
Ask the question of all the candidates in the election that you encounter.
I admit its hard to visualise Coillte falling into private interests and the same interests restricting access. Then again, it was hard to see the IMF taking over the country either.
thats a valid point richie has there,i would be a bit concerned about somewhere like the leadmines becoming a shopping centre though.most forests wouldnt really have development potential
Your man McCarthy has a report on selling public assets coming out soon and it'll be recommended to sell. I doubt it'll happen though, there would be uproar. Fine Gael and Labour have ruled it out.
The trails in Rotarua over in NZ are in a private forest and it's deadly.
thats a valid point richie has there,i would be a bit concerned about somewhere like the leadmines becoming a shopping centre though.most forests wouldnt really have development potential
The McCarthy report (An Bord Snip) recommended that Coillte be sold lock stock and barrel to raise funds for the Irish Government.
You are delusional if you think prospective buyers are going to want to run it as an recreational business.
maybe not primarily, but you never know what they might do, I would have said you'd have been delusional not to think the IMF was coming.
Its a mad Country we live in so anythings possible.
Besides, its not going to stop me .
You are delusional if you think prospective buyers are going to want to run it as an recreational business.[/QUOTE]
i think you missed the point there,coillte is mainly a commercial enterprise ,the trees are planted to be harvested,however in the 30 years or more that takes for a relatively small investment a recreational sideline could be established with a regular return for example mountain bike trails
I'm telling you now in 10 years all our mtb trails will be tolled be Germans pretending to be Swiss, and it will be 300 Quackoos every 1000 metres. But I'm not worried though as all our bikes will be jet powered and controlled remotely. I look forward to mtbing in Morzine while getting the ironing done at home.
maybe not primarily, but you never know what they might do, I would have said you'd have been delusional not to think the IMF was coming.
Its a mad Country we live in so anythings possible.
Besides, its not going to stop me .
Yeah, fcuk them and keep ridin' !!!
It's like illegal downloads, until they come to your door with a big stick it won't stop you!
i know I'm voting for Jackson in the Election !! I wouldn't be knocking Bertie either, its obvious to me that we had our best years when he was in charge !!
it was only when he retired that things went to pot !
The lure is the 'carbon sink', tradeable on the world market. Depending on soil type & tree species, you're talking 1 tonne carbon per acre per year, as a guide. A figure of 1.6 bn euro has been mentioned. For 7% (Coillte owned) of our country. So you could buy the whole place for 22 bn?? Oh yeah, and Bertoine is fronting it. Carbon Trading is the new property. Yay...
I got an email from a mate yesterday
see below as it could affect our favourite sport.
and I hope it is a load of bull.
and mind you it never stopped us before,but just curious to hear the truth about our woods.
"There is some mention in newspapers of Coillte (the not-really-State-body in charge of forestry) being sold off to a Swiss-based investment company. A company that in a PR master-stroke, has employed our very own Bertie Ahern as some sort of director or advisor.
So is it true? I don't know. But I fear that it is, and I would love to find out the truth.
So just pause a moment and think. Where do you like to go cycling?
even if only occasionally, this could impact on your life in a major way. All of Coillte land could go into private ownership, with no requirement to give access to the public.
If anyone knows any more about this, I'd love to hear it. Even if (especially if!) it is to say "That's a load of bull, no truth to it, forget it."
Let me know.
G'Luck
I think you might find that they will then be managed better and facilities will improve.
it doesn't take a rocket scientist or an accountant to see the money that could be made by building a fine MTB Centre in Ticcknock, some of the best trail centres I've seen are in private forests.
this story has been going around for a while now ,similar scenario in uk it was on news last night,andrew doyle td has brought this up this week as he is opposed to the idea.im sure we have nothing to worry about when a fine upstanding character like bertie aherne is involved !!
The company is the International Forestry Fund (IFF) - this is being floating around in the media since late last year and has been variously rubbished and given credence by different parties. There is a good discussion on politics.ie about it.
The end game is not the the trees or the deer or the recreational use - its the land that Coillte own and more importantly the minerals underneath that land and the ownership of the rights to exploit those minerals.
Ask the question of all the candidates in the election that you encounter.
I admit its hard to visualise Coillte falling into private interests and the same interests restricting access. Then again, it was hard to see the IMF taking over the country either.
thats a valid point richie has there,i would be a bit concerned about somewhere like the leadmines becoming a shopping centre though.most forests wouldnt really have development potential
Your man McCarthy has a report on selling public assets coming out soon and it'll be recommended to sell. I doubt it'll happen though, there would be uproar. Fine Gael and Labour have ruled it out.
The trails in Rotarua over in NZ are in a private forest and it's deadly.
thats a valid point richie has there,i would be a bit concerned about somewhere like the leadmines becoming a shopping centre though.most forests wouldnt really have development potential
The McCarthy report (An Bord Snip) recommended that Coillte be sold lock stock and barrel to raise funds for the Irish Government.
You are delusional if you think prospective buyers are going to want to run it as an recreational business.
maybe not primarily, but you never know what they might do, I would have said you'd have been delusional not to think the IMF was coming.
Its a mad Country we live in so anythings possible.
Besides, its not going to stop me .
You are delusional if you think prospective buyers are going to want to run it as an recreational business.[/QUOTE]
i think you missed the point there,coillte is mainly a commercial enterprise ,the trees are planted to be harvested,however in the 30 years or more that takes for a relatively small investment a recreational sideline could be established with a regular return for example mountain bike trails
I'm telling you now in 10 years all our mtb trails will be tolled be Germans pretending to be Swiss, and it will be 300 Quackoos every 1000 metres. But I'm not worried though as all our bikes will be jet powered and controlled remotely. I look forward to mtbing in Morzine while getting the ironing done at home.
maybe not primarily, but you never know what they might do, I would have said you'd have been delusional not to think the IMF was coming.
Its a mad Country we live in so anythings possible.
Besides, its not going to stop me .
Yeah, fcuk them and keep ridin' !!!
It's like illegal downloads, until they come to your door with a big stick it won't stop you!
i know I'm voting for Jackson in the Election !! I wouldn't be knocking Bertie either, its obvious to me that we had our best years when he was in charge !!
it was only when he retired that things went to pot !
The lure is the 'carbon sink', tradeable on the world market. Depending on soil type & tree species, you're talking 1 tonne carbon per acre per year, as a guide. A figure of 1.6 bn euro has been mentioned. For 7% (Coillte owned) of our country. So you could buy the whole place for 22 bn?? Oh yeah, and Bertoine is fronting it. Carbon Trading is the new property. Yay...
I got an email from a mate yesterday
see below as it could affect our favourite sport.
and I hope it is a load of bull.
and mind you it never stopped us before,but just curious to hear the truth about our woods.
"There is some mention in newspapers of Coillte (the not-really-State-body in charge of forestry) being sold off to a Swiss-based investment company. A company that in a PR master-stroke, has employed our very own Bertie Ahern as some sort of director or advisor.
So is it true? I don't know. But I fear that it is, and I would love to find out the truth.
So just pause a moment and think. Where do you like to go cycling?
even if only occasionally, this could impact on your life in a major way. All of Coillte land could go into private ownership, with no requirement to give access to the public.
If anyone knows any more about this, I'd love to hear it. Even if (especially if!) it is to say "That's a load of bull, no truth to it, forget it."
Let me know.
G'Luck
I think you might find that they will then be managed better and facilities will improve.
it doesn't take a rocket scientist or an accountant to see the money that could be made by building a fine MTB Centre in Ticcknock, some of the best trail centres I've seen are in private forests.
this story has been going around for a while now ,similar scenario in uk it was on news last night,andrew doyle td has brought this up this week as he is opposed to the idea.im sure we have nothing to worry about when a fine upstanding character like bertie aherne is involved !!
The company is the International Forestry Fund (IFF) - this is being floating around in the media since late last year and has been variously rubbished and given credence by different parties. There is a good discussion on politics.ie about it.
The end game is not the the trees or the deer or the recreational use - its the land that Coillte own and more importantly the minerals underneath that land and the ownership of the rights to exploit those minerals.
Ask the question of all the candidates in the election that you encounter.
I admit its hard to visualise Coillte falling into private interests and the same interests restricting access. Then again, it was hard to see the IMF taking over the country either.
thats a valid point richie has there,i would be a bit concerned about somewhere like the leadmines becoming a shopping centre though.most forests wouldnt really have development potential
Your man McCarthy has a report on selling public assets coming out soon and it'll be recommended to sell. I doubt it'll happen though, there would be uproar. Fine Gael and Labour have ruled it out.
The trails in Rotarua over in NZ are in a private forest and it's deadly.
thats a valid point richie has there,i would be a bit concerned about somewhere like the leadmines becoming a shopping centre though.most forests wouldnt really have development potential
The McCarthy report (An Bord Snip) recommended that Coillte be sold lock stock and barrel to raise funds for the Irish Government.
You are delusional if you think prospective buyers are going to want to run it as an recreational business.
maybe not primarily, but you never know what they might do, I would have said you'd have been delusional not to think the IMF was coming.
Its a mad Country we live in so anythings possible.
Besides, its not going to stop me .
You are delusional if you think prospective buyers are going to want to run it as an recreational business.[/QUOTE]
i think you missed the point there,coillte is mainly a commercial enterprise ,the trees are planted to be harvested,however in the 30 years or more that takes for a relatively small investment a recreational sideline could be established with a regular return for example mountain bike trails
I'm telling you now in 10 years all our mtb trails will be tolled be Germans pretending to be Swiss, and it will be 300 Quackoos every 1000 metres. But I'm not worried though as all our bikes will be jet powered and controlled remotely. I look forward to mtbing in Morzine while getting the ironing done at home.
maybe not primarily, but you never know what they might do, I would have said you'd have been delusional not to think the IMF was coming.
Its a mad Country we live in so anythings possible.
Besides, its not going to stop me .
Yeah, fcuk them and keep ridin' !!!
It's like illegal downloads, until they come to your door with a big stick it won't stop you!
i know I'm voting for Jackson in the Election !! I wouldn't be knocking Bertie either, its obvious to me that we had our best years when he was in charge !!
it was only when he retired that things went to pot !
The lure is the 'carbon sink', tradeable on the world market. Depending on soil type & tree species, you're talking 1 tonne carbon per acre per year, as a guide. A figure of 1.6 bn euro has been mentioned. For 7% (Coillte owned) of our country. So you could buy the whole place for 22 bn?? Oh yeah, and Bertoine is fronting it. Carbon Trading is the new property. Yay...
I got an email from a mate yesterday
see below as it could affect our favourite sport.
and I hope it is a load of bull.
and mind you it never stopped us before,but just curious to hear the truth about our woods.
"There is some mention in newspapers of Coillte (the not-really-State-body in charge of forestry) being sold off to a Swiss-based investment company. A company that in a PR master-stroke, has employed our very own Bertie Ahern as some sort of director or advisor.
So is it true? I don't know. But I fear that it is, and I would love to find out the truth.
So just pause a moment and think. Where do you like to go cycling?
even if only occasionally, this could impact on your life in a major way. All of Coillte land could go into private ownership, with no requirement to give access to the public.
If anyone knows any more about this, I'd love to hear it. Even if (especially if!) it is to say "That's a load of bull, no truth to it, forget it."
Let me know.
G'Luck
I think you might find that they will then be managed better and facilities will improve.
it doesn't take a rocket scientist or an accountant to see the money that could be made by building a fine MTB Centre in Ticcknock, some of the best trail centres I've seen are in private forests.
this story has been going around for a while now ,similar scenario in uk it was on news last night,andrew doyle td has brought this up this week as he is opposed to the idea.im sure we have nothing to worry about when a fine upstanding character like bertie aherne is involved !!
The company is the International Forestry Fund (IFF) - this is being floating around in the media since late last year and has been variously rubbished and given credence by different parties. There is a good discussion on politics.ie about it.
The end game is not the the trees or the deer or the recreational use - its the land that Coillte own and more importantly the minerals underneath that land and the ownership of the rights to exploit those minerals.
Ask the question of all the candidates in the election that you encounter.
I admit its hard to visualise Coillte falling into private interests and the same interests restricting access. Then again, it was hard to see the IMF taking over the country either.
thats a valid point richie has there,i would be a bit concerned about somewhere like the leadmines becoming a shopping centre though.most forests wouldnt really have development potential
Your man McCarthy has a report on selling public assets coming out soon and it'll be recommended to sell. I doubt it'll happen though, there would be uproar. Fine Gael and Labour have ruled it out.
The trails in Rotarua over in NZ are in a private forest and it's deadly.
thats a valid point richie has there,i would be a bit concerned about somewhere like the leadmines becoming a shopping centre though.most forests wouldnt really have development potential
The McCarthy report (An Bord Snip) recommended that Coillte be sold lock stock and barrel to raise funds for the Irish Government.
You are delusional if you think prospective buyers are going to want to run it as an recreational business.
maybe not primarily, but you never know what they might do, I would have said you'd have been delusional not to think the IMF was coming.
Its a mad Country we live in so anythings possible.
Besides, its not going to stop me .
You are delusional if you think prospective buyers are going to want to run it as an recreational business.[/QUOTE]
i think you missed the point there,coillte is mainly a commercial enterprise ,the trees are planted to be harvested,however in the 30 years or more that takes for a relatively small investment a recreational sideline could be established with a regular return for example mountain bike trails
I'm telling you now in 10 years all our mtb trails will be tolled be Germans pretending to be Swiss, and it will be 300 Quackoos every 1000 metres. But I'm not worried though as all our bikes will be jet powered and controlled remotely. I look forward to mtbing in Morzine while getting the ironing done at home.
maybe not primarily, but you never know what they might do, I would have said you'd have been delusional not to think the IMF was coming.
Its a mad Country we live in so anythings possible.
Besides, its not going to stop me .
Yeah, fcuk them and keep ridin' !!!
It's like illegal downloads, until they come to your door with a big stick it won't stop you!
i know I'm voting for Jackson in the Election !! I wouldn't be knocking Bertie either, its obvious to me that we had our best years when he was in charge !!
it was only when he retired that things went to pot !
The lure is the 'carbon sink', tradeable on the world market. Depending on soil type & tree species, you're talking 1 tonne carbon per acre per year, as a guide. A figure of 1.6 bn euro has been mentioned. For 7% (Coillte owned) of our country. So you could buy the whole place for 22 bn?? Oh yeah, and Bertoine is fronting it. Carbon Trading is the new property. Yay...
I got an email from a mate yesterday
see below as it could affect our favourite sport.
and I hope it is a load of bull.
and mind you it never stopped us before,but just curious to hear the truth about our woods.
"There is some mention in newspapers of Coillte (the not-really-State-body in charge of forestry) being sold off to a Swiss-based investment company. A company that in a PR master-stroke, has employed our very own Bertie Ahern as some sort of director or advisor.
So is it true? I don't know. But I fear that it is, and I would love to find out the truth.
So just pause a moment and think. Where do you like to go cycling?
even if only occasionally, this could impact on your life in a major way. All of Coillte land could go into private ownership, with no requirement to give access to the public.
If anyone knows any more about this, I'd love to hear it. Even if (especially if!) it is to say "That's a load of bull, no truth to it, forget it."
Let me know.
G'Luck
I think you might find that they will then be managed better and facilities will improve.
it doesn't take a rocket scientist or an accountant to see the money that could be made by building a fine MTB Centre in Ticcknock, some of the best trail centres I've seen are in private forests.
this story has been going around for a while now ,similar scenario in uk it was on news last night,andrew doyle td has brought this up this week as he is opposed to the idea.im sure we have nothing to worry about when a fine upstanding character like bertie aherne is involved !!
The company is the International Forestry Fund (IFF) - this is being floating around in the media since late last year and has been variously rubbished and given credence by different parties. There is a good discussion on politics.ie about it.
The end game is not the the trees or the deer or the recreational use - its the land that Coillte own and more importantly the minerals underneath that land and the ownership of the rights to exploit those minerals.
Ask the question of all the candidates in the election that you encounter.
I admit its hard to visualise Coillte falling into private interests and the same interests restricting access. Then again, it was hard to see the IMF taking over the country either.
thats a valid point richie has there,i would be a bit concerned about somewhere like the leadmines becoming a shopping centre though.most forests wouldnt really have development potential
Your man McCarthy has a report on selling public assets coming out soon and it'll be recommended to sell. I doubt it'll happen though, there would be uproar. Fine Gael and Labour have ruled it out.
The trails in Rotarua over in NZ are in a private forest and it's deadly.
thats a valid point richie has there,i would be a bit concerned about somewhere like the leadmines becoming a shopping centre though.most forests wouldnt really have development potential
The McCarthy report (An Bord Snip) recommended that Coillte be sold lock stock and barrel to raise funds for the Irish Government.
You are delusional if you think prospective buyers are going to want to run it as an recreational business.
maybe not primarily, but you never know what they might do, I would have said you'd have been delusional not to think the IMF was coming.
Its a mad Country we live in so anythings possible.
Besides, its not going to stop me .
You are delusional if you think prospective buyers are going to want to run it as an recreational business.[/QUOTE]
i think you missed the point there,coillte is mainly a commercial enterprise ,the trees are planted to be harvested,however in the 30 years or more that takes for a relatively small investment a recreational sideline could be established with a regular return for example mountain bike trails
I'm telling you now in 10 years all our mtb trails will be tolled be Germans pretending to be Swiss, and it will be 300 Quackoos every 1000 metres. But I'm not worried though as all our bikes will be jet powered and controlled remotely. I look forward to mtbing in Morzine while getting the ironing done at home.
maybe not primarily, but you never know what they might do, I would have said you'd have been delusional not to think the IMF was coming.
Its a mad Country we live in so anythings possible.
Besides, its not going to stop me .
Yeah, fcuk them and keep ridin' !!!
It's like illegal downloads, until they come to your door with a big stick it won't stop you!
i know I'm voting for Jackson in the Election !! I wouldn't be knocking Bertie either, its obvious to me that we had our best years when he was in charge !!
it was only when he retired that things went to pot !
The lure is the 'carbon sink', tradeable on the world market. Depending on soil type & tree species, you're talking 1 tonne carbon per acre per year, as a guide. A figure of 1.6 bn euro has been mentioned. For 7% (Coillte owned) of our country. So you could buy the whole place for 22 bn?? Oh yeah, and Bertoine is fronting it. Carbon Trading is the new property. Yay...
